sutton families of the wirral hundred, cheshire, england
JOHN SUTTON of GREAT MEOLSE
- 1808 - 1851
- 1852 - 1871
- 1872 - 1888
- The King Of Meolse
- Headstone
John Sutton of Great Meolse was the first born child of John and Elizabeth of Moreton later of Reeds Farm. His christening being recorded in the Parish records of St Oswalds Church, Bidston as taking place on 27 August 1809.
On the 25 July 1836 John along with his sister Margaret were witnesses to the marriage of John Potter and Emma Clark at St Nicholas' Church, Liverpool. Emma was left a widow following the death of John Potter (1852) and she subsequently married Joseph Sutton, John Sutton's younger brother.
John married Mary Croft at the Holy Trinity Church, Hoylake on 28 December 1840. Mary the daughter of Simon and Ellen Croft was christened on 31 March 1797 at West Kirby. Simon died in 1836 aged 70 years followed by his wife in 1849.
There is some circumstantial evidence that John worked on the construction of the Leasowe embankment in his early days before returning to farming. This transition back to farming would have been a natural process, having been brought up and worked on his father's farm.
The ceremony was witnessed by Michael Croft and Ellen Goodwin and both John and Mary signed their names in the Register.
Mary was about 40 years of age when she married John some 10 years younger. Given John's background he would appear to be an idea candidate to take over the management of the Clunie. It is difficult to say who would benefit the most, Mary finding someone to marry her at a later age or John who had a ready made business.
The 1830's Tithe Records indicate that Ellen Croft owned 8 acres of land and farmed an additional 45 acres including the massive 18 acre site known as "Taylor's Field,"owned by William Tristram Keightley.
| Clunie Farm - 1841 Census Great Meoles in parish West Kirby | ||||
| Name | Age and Sex |
Employment | Born in county | |
M |
F |
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| Ellen Croft | 70 |
Farmer | y | |
| William Croft | 20 |
y | ||
| Ellen Croft | 6 |
y | ||
| John Sutton | 30 |
Farmer | y | |
| Mary Sutton | 40 |
y | ||
| Ellen Parr | 15 |
Farm Servant | y | |
| HO107/127/13 P5 Great Meolse | ||||
| Clunie Farm - 1851 Census Great Meoles in parish West Kirby | ||||||
| Name | Family Position | Status | Age and gender |
Occupation | Place born | |
M |
F |
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| John Sutton | Head | Marr | 41 |
Farmer of 68 acres employing 1 ag lab |
Bidston | |
| Mary | Wife | Marr | 54 |
West Kirby | ||
| Ellen Croft | Niece | UnMarr | 16 |
Bidston | ||
| Robert Preston | Serv | UnMarr | 21 |
Farm Servant | Woodchurch | |
| William Hardman | Serv | UnMarr | 17 |
Farm Servant | West Kirby | |
| Thomas Halliday | Serv | UnMarr | 12 |
Farm Servant | West Kirby | |
| Ann Silcock | Serv | UnMarr | 12 |
House Servant | West Kirby | |
| HO107/ 2174/171 P3 Great Meolse | ||||||
The 1851 census for was taken on the night of 30 March 1851 and the John is recorded as the enumerator for his area. On this rare occasion I can state with a what my 2x Great Grandfather was doing that evening.
| Clunie Farm - 1861 Census Great Meoles in parish West Kirby | ||||||
| Name | Status | Condition | Age&Sex |
Profession | Born | |
M |
F |
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| John Sutton | Head | Marr | 51 |
Farmer of 115 acres employing 4 men and 1 boy |
Moreton | |
| Mary | Wife | Marr | 63 |
Great Meols | ||
| Emma Stanley | Niece | UnMarr | 18 |
House Servant | Wallasey | |
| John Parkinson | Nephew | UnMarr | 2 |
Great Meols | ||
| Thomas Youds | Servant | UnMarr | 19 |
Cowman | Saughall Massie | |
| HO 234/ 22 2638 f92 | ||||||
Mary who died on the 2nd May, 1869 in Great Meols and was buried on the 5th May 1869 in St Oswalds Parish Church, Bidston.
John later met Eliza Forrest (nee Craine) a widow born on 27 June 1832 on the Isle of Man (IOM). The 1841 census records Eliza living with her family on Kings Street, Douglas. 10 years later, now aged 17, Eliza is living with her widowed mother on the IOM and is profession is given as a 'Bonnet Maker.' By 1861 Eliza had married John Forrest and the couple had 2 children, John Allen (b1855) and Agnes (1859) both in Liverpool. John, a Scot by origin a Consulting Engineer born in 1827.
By 1871 Eliza and John were married.
Extract from St Bridget’s Parish Register, West Kirby recording the marriage of John Sutton to Elizabeth Forrest on 26 April 1870 |
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John Sutton Widower Farmer of Great Meols of full age Married Elizabeth Forrest, Widow, of full age |
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| Witnesses James Wilson Annie Wilson |
Curate Joseph Yates Dod |
| Grooms fathers name and occupation | John - Farmer |
| Brides fathers name and occupation | Charles Craine - Tanner |
| Clunie Farm - 1871 Census Great Meoles in parish West Kirby | ||||||
| Name | Status | Condition | Age&Sex |
Profession | Born | |
M |
F |
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| John Sutton | Head | Marr | 61 |
Farmer - Landover | Moreton | |
| Eliza | Wife | Marr | 36 |
Isle of Man | ||
| Agnes Forrest | Step Dau | UnMarr | 12 |
Scholar | Liverpool | |
| Ellen Smth | Servant | UnMarr | 16 |
Domestic Servant | Saughall | |
| Joseph David | Servant | UnMarr | 25 |
Farm Servant | West Kirby | |
| Thomas Smith | Servant | UnMarr | 16 |
Farm Servant | Saughall | |
| RG10/3743/112 P37 | ||||||
| 5 Sea VIew, Hoose - 1881 Census in parish West Kirby | ||||||
| Name | Status | Condition | Age&Sex |
Profession | Born | |
M |
F |
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| John Sutton | Head | Marr | 71 |
Retired Farmer | Moreton | |
| Eliza | Wife | Marr | 46 |
Douglas Isle of Man | ||
| John | Son | UnMarr | 9 |
Scholar | Hoylake | |
| William | Son | UnMarr | 7 |
Scholar | Hoylake | |
| Annie | Dau | UnMarr | 6 |
Scholar | Hoylake | |
| Agnes Forrest | Step Dau | UnMarr | 22 |
Liverpool | ||
| Martha Stanley | Neice | UnMarr | 25 |
Farmers Daughter | Moreton | |
| Eliza Hazlehurst | Neice | UnMarr | 11 |
Farmers Daughter | Bidston | |
| Alice Leigh | Servant | Widow | 64 |
Nurse | Liverpool | |
| RG11/3573/27 P1 | ||||||
John died on the 22 August 1888 in Hoylake, Wirral and was buried on the 25 August 1888 in St Oswald Parish Church, Bidston. Eliza remained at 5 Sea View and is resident in 1901 with her domestic servant Harriet Leak Reid of Chester.
Before we leave Great Meolse, we think we ought to refer to some of the rulers of 50 years ago. Amongst these the principals were, John Sutton, Nathaniel Dawson Price and Daniel Croft. These three men at this period were the influential leaders of the place. The most prominent undoubtedly was John Sutton.
John was considered the "King of Meolse" and in all cases of difficulty or doubt "John" was the one to whom the farmers looked too for advice, whilst he was ably supported by the others mentioned. John Sutton was tall, massive in build, and was the possessor of a good deal of intellectual ability. He was the parson's right hand at the Parish Church for he filled the office of Churchwarden on several occasions, and was most regular and attentive to his duties.
As Waywarden of his township he interested himself in the highways or public roads, seeing that they secured their proper share of repair from the Highway Board, and at meetings of this body, held at Hooton monthly, John was never conspicuous by his absence. On the contrary he was always present and his colleagues held him in esteem and valued his opinion on matters appertaining to the Board's work. For many years he served the office of Guardian of the Poor.
Here again his abilities came into recognition as in the case of the Highway Board, so was his attendance at the Board of Guardians, held at Clatterbridge. The poor had always a good friend in John Sutton! Another office he occupied was the Overseer of the Poor, and as there was no assistant overseer, the work fell to the Senior Overseer, and as that required clerical skill, this generally fell to his lot. Another important duty he discharged was that of representative on the Wallasey Embankment Commissioners, the overlooking of the Leasowe embankment being his special care. In his younger days "John" assisted in the construction of the Embankment and on completion took to farming, being one of the most successful farmers of the township, occupying the farm now the residence of Mr. John Price. [Clunie 1881 census]
He eventually retired and lived quietly in Hoylake for many years, respected and humoured by all who knew him. His only son, Mr. W.C. Sutton resides still in Great Meolse and follows in the lines of his father by giving his services to public work.
Hoylake Free Press 1914
St Oswald’s Church Bidston Stone set into the ground |
In memory of Mary, wife of John Sutton Of Great Meolse who died 2nd May 1869 aged 72 years. John Charles son of the above John Sutton and Eliza his wife died April 10th 1881 aged 9 years 8months The above named John Sutton who died August 22, 1888 aged 79 years Annie Brooke daughter of the above John Sutton and Eliza, his wife Who died July 1st 1896 aged 21 years. |
| Notes: 1.Mary Croft was born 1797 in West Kirby marrying John Sutton in 1840 2. John Charles Sutton was born July 1872 the eldest son of John and Eliza Sutton.John was named after his father and Elizabeth’s father Charles Craine, Tanner from Isle of Man. 3. Ann(ie) Brook Sutton was born 1875 in Gt Meolse the only daughter of John and Elizabeth Sutton |
John Sutton "The Fisherman"